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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Apr 8, 2009 5:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

All the new material from early '68 floating about, first the Charlie Miller upgrades then RT2-2, begs a question. No the question is not whether WT should consult a doctor because something has been lasting more than 4 hrs (just step away from the speakers and everything will be fine). The question is why does Jerry's voice seem so much deeper in the '60s compared to the '70s? I am listening to a China Cat from 3FTV and his voice sounds completely different than those early ones in '68. I have troubles believing this is a recording artifact so one is left to assume that Jerry made a conscious effort to change his singing. Anyone have any info about this? When? Why?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 8, 2009 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

He sings lower on the early China Cats because it was originally composed in a different key. (Compare the opening riff of early '68 to a '69 version, you can hear the difference right away.)
He doesn't sound very comfortable singing it in early '68, and realized they had to redo it, but they had to work on it a little. For instance, in March versions you can hear them start in one key and then switch to another - and then in the middle solo, they change keys for part of the solo and then switch back again for the verse.

As for other songs - the main difference I note in his early singing is the very emphatic, kind of wobbly way he sings - Friend of Mine would be one of the worst culprits. The Aoxomoxoa songs are full of this kind of overdone singing - but in '69 he starts calming down and using a more normal voice.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 8, 2009 1:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

Ah--that makes sense! Cool.

That's what I get for offering opinions from the seat of my pants with no musical knowledge whatsoever!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 8, 2009 6:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

I have noticed this; it comes up in 66-68 but seems "over" by the middle of 68...I have detected two aspects to it: doing IAONBBlue, he actually tries to sound like Bob D. Singing a song like CCS or esp the live GRoad, his voice is very different from what it would sound naturally, it seems to me.

So, I have often thought that he "tried too hard" in the early years, and then, "gave up" sometime in 68 and let his natural voice come through...

Dunno.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 8, 2009 3:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

I'd say there was nothing natural about the nascent SF acid rock sound.

But it did have roots in folk music, bluegrass and country blues alot more than say, the Hollywood Sunset Strip sound (unless we're talking Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds, Bees and Monkees.)

But no, I really dig that forced vibrato effect Garcia used in his '66 - '67 singing.

Janis had an affected vocal style in her '66 - early '67 stuff as well, like a throwback to Ma Rainey and Mae West.

Love that too!

See you in the funny papers...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 8, 2009 4:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

what's in the bag?

Rock (on).

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Apr 8, 2009 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

some fresh ocean scallops, and a jack in the box taco!!!

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Apr 8, 2009 8:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

What's in Tom Wolfe's bag?

The manuscript to The Electric Fool-Aid Acid Test and a package of Sunshine Hydrox for Jerry.


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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Apr 8, 2009 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

come on folks!!! everybody knows jerry switched from grape kool-aid to cherry during those years!!! lol!!!

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Poster: csaw44 Date: Apr 8, 2009 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

i notice it on early HWAFOM and '69 versions, different pitch, more somber in '69

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Poster: SoogyerJohnson Date: Apr 8, 2009 6:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Curious Case of Jerry Garcia

I'm not sure HotDog... the other day on youtube a couple of assholes up'd some fake vids. No Doubt, they're from Georgia.

HELLO GINA Where Ever you R !

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